Adrian Diaz – Testing affiliate sites, lead gen, merch, YouTube, property investing and more to quit his day job

July 27, 2021 01:16:46
Adrian Diaz – Testing affiliate sites, lead gen, merch, YouTube, property investing and more to quit his day job
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Adrian Diaz – Testing affiliate sites, lead gen, merch, YouTube, property investing and more to quit his day job
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In this episode of the Niche Website Builders Podcast, Adam Smith talks to Adrian Diaz from Hasta La Vista Boss about leaving his demanding day job to make his dream of earning a full-time income online a reality. Better late than never!

Adrian has tried many methods and ways to make money online. He has explored Amazon affiliate sites, lead-gen, selling merchandise, YouTube channels, investing in real estate, and running a podcast while working a full-time construction job.

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Speaker 0 00:00:09 Are you ready to get serious about building content sites and building a profitable business online. Welcome to the niche website builders podcast. We bring you the latest field, tested tips, tricks and strategies for building a profitable online asset. We interview industry experts, share customer success stories and reveal our own experiences. Working on hundreds of sites to inspire and motivate you to make something happen. Let's do this. Speaker 1 00:00:42 Welcome to this week's episode of the niche website, builder podcast, and YouTube channel. This week. I've got an awesome guest with me. His name is Adrian from Astra Lavista boss. As the name suggests he'd run his work and extremely hard to say, I still have Easter boss and make a full-time income online. Um, since he started exploring how to make money online a couple of years back, uh, he's tried a variety of different methods. He tried loads of methods, actually. Uh, they include Amazon affiliate sites, uh, lead gen, uh, selling merge you his YouTube channel. He's invested in property. Currently, you went to podcast and he does all this while still work in a very demanding construction job. He works less than 12 hours a day, and then he comes home and then he does all this fun stuff in the evenings. Um, so today we talked to him about pretty much all of that. We get into more detail about his experience running lead gen and merge and YouTube and his Amazon affiliate sites and how he's now concentrating on that more and more. So we can actually make this a full-time gait for himself, uh, to be been a great episodes. And I hope you enjoy it and let's get into it. Speaker 0 00:01:53 This episode is brought to you by niche website builders, an agency dedicated to helping people, just like you build profitable content sites, niche website builders are the hands-off content site marketing agency. You always wished existed. It's run by content site marketers for content site marketers, and they help both investors and individuals alike build profitable online properties. They provide a fully outsourced approach to content creation, link building and done for you. Website builds the same approach they use on their own six-figure portfolios. For example, their content packages come with a proprietary keyword research process are written by in-house native English speakers formatted using templates proven to convert and uploaded to WordPress with affiliate links added so that all you need to do is hit the publish button. Check them [email protected] slash show that's niche, website.builders/show, and fill out the form to get coupon codes for 10% more content, or a 10% discount on links with your first daughter sent right to your inbox. Speaker 1 00:02:59 Hey John how's things. Speaker 2 00:03:01 Hey buddy. Everything is good, man. Just coming from work, sipping some tea on my favorite cup. Oh, Speaker 3 00:03:11 I need Speaker 1 00:03:11 To get the hasta Reese, the boss cup now. Speaker 2 00:03:14 Yeah, I need to, I need to, I need to personalize it even more, right? Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:03:21 How's work been it been busy, Speaker 2 00:03:24 Busy, busy, busy, busy. It's a, it's a job that keeps me busy all the time. There's no, there's no re I mean, I don't do much with my body, but I do a lot with my hands. You know, it's like, I mean, that sounded weird, but it's just using the joysticks a lot. It's like playing, Speaker 1 00:03:41 Not just quite, quite a demanding job mentally as well and making sure everything's right. And yeah. Speaker 3 00:03:48 Yeah. Speaker 1 00:03:49 Well, I guess I, well, okay. I think, tell us about your job. Like what, what do you do? Tell us about yourself, Adrian, before we get into anything, right? Let's hear a bit about yourself and because you've got an amazing story, you work a full-time job, like a very demanding full-time job, and then you, you do, you've done or you have done, and you are still doing like 1,000,001 things on the side. Like, I dunno why, how you doing it? So give us an introduction to yourself. Speaker 2 00:04:14 Sure thing. So some people might know me, some people know, but if you don't know me, I'm a full-time construction worker. Uh, I work on a crane operator if you want. So that's why I said I use the joysticks a lot. Um, it's a fun, it's a fun job. I love it to death, but it's still a job. So, uh, I want to say this at one time, like Adam, like mark and all the, some of you listeners here <inaudible>, you know, be full-time online. I simply love digital marketing. Um, I love building websites. I love SEO. I love, I don't know. I just, it's just a word that it was, he was hidden from me. I don't know why. Speaker 1 00:05:02 Yeah. Cause you, you, you started this quite late, right? Like you haven't, we're very Speaker 2 00:05:06 Late, very late. Like, um, I remember, I still remember now, first time I went on YouTube, uh, that Cannington YouTube channel. I said to him, I don't know what the hell I was doing for the last, for the last 29 years. Why, why, why no one told me about this before. Right. And then when you find Speaker 1 00:05:24 It, it almost feels too good to be true. Right? Speaker 2 00:05:26 Well, he was, you know, and that's, that's actually dangerous. It's a danger of today's online marketing. Yes. Because you have you'll, you'll see new people. Like when I, when I was new to this, I was, uh, I was kind of lucky in the sense that I didn't fall in, in, in the wrong hands. Yeah. Uh, in following the wrong people. Uh, and I was lucky that the first person I find and, um, I started to and follow, eh, it was Alex Cooper from WP ego, and he seemed like a, such a genuine guy. I said, I need to follow this guy. So then from, uh, from him, I, I saw an interview that he had with Doug, uh, talking about the side that doc sold for a quarter million dollars as a shit, what these guys are doing. I need to learn this stuff. Speaker 3 00:06:23 Yeah. So that's, Speaker 2 00:06:24 That's, that's how I started, you know, it was late, but I guess on the positive note, it's, it's never late. Right. It's better late than never, as they say. Speaker 1 00:06:35 Yeah, yeah. 100%. We just had, um, we just had Alex on the last episode cause he told one of his sites, the public 30 site for $70,000. So he's just had a great day. Speaker 2 00:06:48 Nice. That's nice money for holidays, Alex. Definitely remember to buy us a beer when it comes to London brother. Speaker 1 00:06:57 So, um, I was asked this question to everyone and everyone's got a different story. So how did you make your first dollar online? I assume it's going to be different and most of our guests, cause they've been dabbling a little bit for years, but if you've been doing this only recently, like how did you make your first dollar online? Speaker 2 00:07:14 Well, uh, the first dollar is I mentioned already Alex. Yeah. So, uh, he was doing at that time he was building some websites, uh, that you would put this plug in. Uh, what was the name? I can't remember the name now, but he was, he was not necessarily the size that you and I built now. It's um, you would just put the products, there was a plugin that was just pulled the, the products from Amazon and put them on your site. A WPZ uh, no, no, no. He was um, oh, it was in store builder kind of thing. Yeah. You would use this, a WooCommerce, uh, blogging. And there was another one. I forgot the name now escapes me the name of it is he building Speaker 1 00:07:57 Like a, an e-commerce store, but it's feeling Speaker 2 00:08:00 The store, but just with the products that you decide to, to sell. So you say, um, that you build a site like a podcasting pros.com. Well, uh, you'll put on that site, just products that had to do with, with podcasting, right. Mike's stance, uh, headphones, would you build content around Speaker 1 00:08:23 That as well? Or you just try to rank the products? I Speaker 2 00:08:25 Think he was at that time, he was, uh, he, you would put the shop together right on the main page and then you will build a section, a block section for it. But, um, uh, for some reason at that time, I remember the, the site we bring traffic just from having those, those products on the page. It was, uh, you was quite interesting. And that's how I made my first dollar online. Cause I, I, I sold a few products there. I don't even, like I said, I don't even know how people find that site. Speaker 3 00:08:58 I didn't know much Speaker 2 00:08:59 About SEO at that time. Of course. I mean, I was, I was just following what Alex was showing and um, and you know, buying the teams that he was suggesting, like, step-by-step, that's the best way to do it, you know, just follow whatever the teacher right. Is saying. And then, and then you start to, you know, play and find other things. Um, but yeah, that's how, that's how I made my first dollar in London. Then I was so you know how it is, you remember your first dollar as well? Yup. I just got, I just got addicted to that. Well, yeah, Speaker 1 00:09:33 It makes it, it makes it real. It doesn't it, you think well, makes it real. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:09:36 Definitely. Cause like, like I said earlier, you know, you have a, you have a lot of people nowadays that, oh, I even made a, like a short, um, uh, a priority. Some people didn't understand that. The message I was sending, I was, I was, uh, Hey, you want to make $4,000 per day, easy, easy. You don't need to know anything. I'm going to show you now just sign up to my webinar. And I was shooting the, the money guy and I have it Speaker 3 00:09:58 Somewhere in here. Speaker 2 00:10:00 It's a parody I made on my YouTube channel. And uh, and uh, definitely when you see that, that, you know, whatever the Alex was showing was stitching and he was a free, I was really, it was not a course. And when he said that ha this is, this is easy. I'm doing air quotes for those people who, who, who are listening on the podcast, it's easy. Uh, but then as you do more, you find out that it's not necessarily that easy, but, but you see that it's actually doable. You can do it. The more you learn, the more, um, you implement all these things that you learn, it becomes, he becomes real. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Speaker 1 00:10:48 Okay. So that's how you made your first dollar online. Um, and then you went on to do like a ton of different things, which were interesting. And I want to talk about most of them today because there's stuff that I haven't done. So I want to like get your insight and your like, experience from them. So you you've done or you still you've done and you're still doing, uh, like affiliate websites, which is great, but you've also done some lead gen. So merge, merge, and some other merge YouTube. Obviously you've got a great YouTube channel and we'll tell everyone about that and they can go and see, and we'll put the links in the description that you've also got some property investing and you're work a job, which is what, like 12 hours a day. <inaudible> Speaker 3 00:11:34 It happens so much. And I have a weapon, a kid in the bedroom. Well, I forgot to mention that. Speaker 1 00:11:42 We, I, I literally only have experience here with the affiliate marketing side of things. So like, I'd be keen to, to, to hear more. But before we, before we do that, I want to know like, and I laugh about it, but I want to know how do you stay motivated to go to a job every day and then come home when you're tired and it's been a long day and you know, you might be stressed from work and then to open the laptop and work on your, your other projects. How do you stay motivated to do, to do that time after time? Speaker 2 00:12:13 Uh it's it's, uh, it's the way is the way I see things, uh, you see, when, when I decided to do this, actually, it wasn't like, Hey, I'm going to make a website and see how this goes. Uh, when I, when I saw people like Alex, like doc Huntington, and then other people that I follow my dignity and all these awesome people, I said, this can actually be a full-time business. Yeah. Like he, I mean, I don't, I don't want to just build a website and see if it works. I want to make a business out of this thing. I want to make a career. And I want to, because I saw the possibility and actually I'm not going to show it because, uh, people not gonna see it on the podcast. But, um, I have the, uh, book from, um, Tim for the four hour week. Um, that's of course everybody's I think digital mark, any digital markets or Bible, I guess. And when I've read that book, uh, some of the things that don't apply anymore, but just the fact that the way he managed to, to just pass the, the, the jobs in the task that he, he had to do to someone else, what's the word for now delegate, delegate, and outsource, right. Outsourcing and delegating this task to someone else, and then have so much time for yourself, man, that just blew my mind. I didn't know. That was possible. Speaker 2 00:13:52 So that's my sister. Hello, those of you in the podcast, my sister just walks in the kitchen, welcome to Adrian's kitchen. This is where the magic happens, everybody. This is where the mission of St. Hasta LA Vista was happens. Speaker 1 00:14:08 Um, the dream becomes reality, Speaker 2 00:14:10 And I sit and I had the vision, like soon as I read this book, you know, you create all these images in your head. And I saw myself, wow, I can, I think I can do this. I mean, I'm not as smart as tooling the shed, but I can, I can put two blasters together and I'm sure I can do it. And the, the vision that I have is so big, that motivates me so much. Every time when I come home, I said, I need to work towards that. You know, I need to work because I want to work in. And another thing that helps me is that you see, I don't see this, like many people, I want to make the sides if, see if it works, if it doesn't, I want to make this, uh, like a long-term project. Right. So if, if I, I, I said to myself, and I said to my misses, if I get into this, I want to make these like, uh, a project for the rest of my life. Yeah. Right. Yeah. This is what I want to become. Um, so, you know, that's why I got into so many things, because I'm so excited and I love to learn new things and do this, but as we will learn, as we talk about this, maybe later on, um, it might be good. It might not be that good. All right. Well, Speaker 1 00:15:30 Let's, let's get onto them. So the first, the first thing is, is lead gen. Um, I, like I said, I've never really done anything. So tell us about your experience with lead gen I'm S I'm assuming it was website based obviously, but was it, was it local like a local business or was it like a national, like national business, right. It's Speaker 2 00:15:49 National. It's actually it's national. Now that I think about it, I mean, I, I keep saying he's local, but it's not local it's national. Cause I have this website is ranking for different keywords in different cities. So it's, it's I stopped working on it because I don't have too much time. But, um, the website is ranking for, if you're curious, just go to telehandler, planet.com. It's a, it's on it's available on the YouTube channel as well. I stopped unfortunately, making videos for that, uh, case study as well, again, for lack of time. But that website is, um, related to the things that I do. So I said, I said, one day, Hm, let me try this. Let me try this local stuff thing. I mean, if I, if I can do this with the field and marketing, I'm sure I can do this with local, uh, you know, local SEO and to my surprise, local SEO, it's fricking easy. Is there in, he's freaking easy? I, I don't even want to say it too much because if I, if I, if I decide to go into local SEO, um, you know, I want to keep you guys away Speaker 3 00:17:02 From it so I Speaker 2 00:17:04 Can make loads of money. But, um, when you say much it's much easier, like competition it's, it's, um, not as a Speaker 1 00:17:12 Fierce, there's not so much competition. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:17:14 Yeah. He's, he's not, he's not competing. I mean, they are, of course, like, I don't know, dentists lawyers, those are, or, or, uh, real estate agents. Those are freaking you need lots of money. Yeah. And, but other than that, you can do like, you know, uh, roofers in Northern London, I'm sure there's some people who are already doing that, but, uh, I'm just saying, you know, it's so much easier. And the, the site was, um, basically I was writing content for, uh, related to tele hunger. If you don't know what it is, a telehandler, um, if you've seen a forklift in one of these warehouses, you know, goes up and down, will the telehandler is just a telehandler is just a four leaf that extends, it has a boom that goes in and out, like for me to six meters, 20 meters. And as well, I work on, uh, a, another machine that's called something similar, but it's basically like a crane, you know, rotates three, 360 degrees. Speaker 2 00:18:24 You lift stuff on the roof and all that kind of stuff. And I said, well, I have knowledge about this. And I am doing this and I have images and I can make videos. So I have who better than me to, to do this. And I started just like, just, you know, just to play it, play with it. And then to my surprise says, shit, this makes, uh, this makes generates traffic. Okay. Okay. Nice. And then I say, okay, let's learn Twilio Twilio, if you don't know, it's, um, I'm not sure how to call it to put it. Cause I'm not. It's like, it's kind of a napkin. Yeah. It's an app where you can buy a phone number basically. And, and um, then you, you take that number and redirect it to a client basically, or the number, you know, it doesn't have to be, client can be your phone number. Speaker 2 00:19:23 It can be someone who says, and, and I talked to some people that I know in the industry, I say, Hey, would you be interested to get these leads that I'm getting to my side? I mean, I don't know what to do with them. Uh, and I'm sure these people are looking for training, you know? So you have people going on Google now and say, even if you go to Google now, and if you type telehandler training in London, my website should be number one. Okay. I mean, I hope cause I'm good at it, but no I'm joking, but I think it's, it's, it's number one in the maps. Right? And that's where you want to be with local, uh, international, um, businesses. You have to be in the maps. That's where the people go because they'll, you have the phone number, you have the phone, you can ring, you can call the business, right from there, you can go to the website direction to the business. Speaker 2 00:20:21 Uh, it's, it's different than a feeler marketing. It's a totally different business model. It's, uh, uh, it's different. You need different, uh, signals in order to rank for an, a field for a local, um, lead generation site. Then for an affiliate site, the keywords are different. The user is different in the way they look for, uh, you know, the way they tapping Google. Uh, but yeah, I started to, I started to make some money with that site, uh, sending, uh, leads to local businesses. Okay. Uh, I was charging 25 pounds per lead just for the call, just for a call. Wow. And, and, uh, it doesn't matter if, if the client or the potential customer becomes a paid customer or not. Yeah. That's not my job. You know, my job is to send the leads. Yeah. I generate the leads in, I send them to you. Speaker 1 00:21:21 Well, there's some kind of thing. Did you have any, like, did they insist on any kind of like a quality control or like, you know, they only pay for leads that stay on the core for at least. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:21:36 You have, I mean, I'm not an expert in, I had to ask this as well, too, to other people that are much more successful with that type of, uh, business, uh, model. But, um, there's a few ways to do it. You just have to talk to your client and you have to, you have to, if you want to make it easy and like super, super passive, you just say, Hey, I sent you 20 pounds, 20 leads per month, pay me 750 pounds. Right. Makes sense. It, you know, so if I send you 20 or if I send you 50, you'd just pay me that money. Yeah. Okay. Doesn't matter. That's the easiest way to do it. Um, I wasn't doing it that way because I was still figuring out how to, how to do it best for myself. Of course. Yeah. Um, so there was a possibility for me to not charge for the lead, but charge only for when a customer becomes paid customer. So in that case, I would say, okay, so the training costs, what is it? 1000 pounds, right? Well, you pay me 10, 10% or 20% or something like that. Of course that's much higher, but that makes him more, uh, confident if you want that. I'm not trying to, uh, you know, uh, stamp him or something, you know, oh, he charged me for these leads, but they're not quality, bro. You pay for Google ads, Speaker 3 00:23:05 AdSense, that's a scammer. You Speaker 2 00:23:10 Have your, you have your competition going there and click on your ads and then Google to charge you. So I'm, I'm sending you leads because the thing is what I was trying to explain to him as well, is that people find this site. I don't go out there, find people to come to my side, to, to call you, you know, and waste your money. These people, they go online, they typed tell you how the training in London, they find my side, this, they take the time to call you. And, uh, Speaker 1 00:23:40 They're very warm at that point. They've obviously they want to, they want to make a purchase that point. I mean, Speaker 2 00:23:46 They're almost 60, 70% or almost there. It just depends on your husband. And the problem was that with, with this client that I had, uh, one of them, cause I had a few, uh, one of them is that, um, they said, oh, we have locations all over the UK. And I said, okay, I'm going to send all these leads. If someone from, uh, from, I dunno from Scotland calls you, well, you tell them where is the location is and if they want to come or not, well, that, that depends on them or, and you, so the, the, the, the issue came that they, there were many people call calling from places that are far from his location. Right. And then he said, well, yeah, but you sent me all these leads, but these people don't want to come and say, w why do you want me to do? Speaker 2 00:24:40 You said you're national. So I'm sending you leads from all, all over the country, instead of, instead of just saying, Hey, Adrian, send me leads from London or from Manchester, or in that case, they're going to be more, much more, uh, you know, um, uh, what do you say on the bottom of the funnel? Yeah. Qualified, qualified, exactly much, much more qualified for, for you and the chances of them coming to your center to do the training and become pay customers are bigger. So it was, it was awesome. Definitely. I want to get into this, um, at some point again, maybe once I'm free and you know, not 10 hours, 12 hours on a construction site, maybe when I can be 10 hours in front of my computer, build a team and you know, then I can, then I can do all this crazy stuff, but it's awesome. Lead generation, local SEO. It's awesome. Speaker 1 00:25:33 Okay. If you were, if you would have to give like a, your top tip to anyone who's listening that wants to get into the lead gen, and maybe he's not done it before, what, what would you say your biggest learning has been from doing it yourself? Speaker 2 00:25:46 Uh, there's so many things, but, um, the number one tip number one, let's see, just play with it, I guess, uh, play with it. Uh, don't, don't be afraid to reach out to customers, to people, to businesses and ask them, Hey, do you want leads? I have these people waiting on this list. I don't ha I don't have where to send them. Would you want some leads and do this for free for a couple of times? Yeah. You know what I mean? This Twilio, uh, app, you can, you can set up your site ranking in Google and put someone somewhere, just go and Google and find a local business in the area that you want to send leads and take their number, put it in your Twilio app. And when they call this, um, this service, this local business, there's a thing called whisper in, in, in the app. So when, when, when the people, on the other hand, they're going, gonna receive the call, the, the Twilio app will say, this phone call is a lead from Adrian Diaz. And then, and then they got to pass you to the color. Right. Okay. Right. So, so you send them a few leads like this, and then you send them a, an email or a phone call and you say, Hey guys, you know, these leads that you received for the last couple of weeks, uh, from Adrian Diaz. Well, uh, I have Speaker 3 00:27:26 More, yeah, it's me. Hey, Speaker 2 00:27:29 Would you like more leads like that then if you're interested, let's talk about business. Nice. You know, so that's, that's one of the things that you, you, you know, it has many things, like I said, there's a lot of things they can do, but, uh, that's one of the most interesting that I've learned as well. Speaker 1 00:27:48 Nice, awesome. That's great. That's a great tip. Okay. Well, Nick, next up on my list here is, is merge. Uh, I know you've got some experiences merge, um, and I didn't know whether you were doing like Amazon merge or a different kind of merge, like give us a rundown on your experience with, with merge. Speaker 2 00:28:06 What March you see, I got into March because I said, okay, I'm building this brand as the LA Vista boss, YouTube channel podcast, these and that Facebook group, I was building a community. People get to know me and I say, okay, I think I have a, uh, I think I have a taste for building stuff. Maybe brands. I don't know. Yeah. Uh, I think maybe because I'm in the construction, I don't know, Speaker 3 00:28:41 Build a life and build a plan. Yeah, Speaker 2 00:28:44 Exactly. But then I said, let's try to build a list. Let's make some t-shirts as well. Cause I've seen, I think at the time I was watching a lot of, uh, YouTube, uh, and uh, I think I saw Mr. Beast and all these other big YouTubers that makes shitloads of money from not from the YouTube channel, but from the, from the merge. And I said, okay, well, let's, let's, let's, let's try a few t-shirts maybe, you know, maybe the message hasta LA Vista boss will resonate with so many people. Right. Cause I mean, everybody wants to get rid of the boss and I thought it was funny. Right. I started Vista boss, uh, and then I started to make, uh, other different things, um, that has to do with the digital marketing space. Right. Motivational and, and, and that kind of stuff. It didn't work that well, you know, because it requires time, everything time, everything requires time and dedication and, and energy. And I didn't have it. Didn't have it. How did Speaker 1 00:29:52 You, how did you have the set up? Was it, uh, a website that you were driving people to? Were you driving it through Amazon mooch or I didn't Speaker 2 00:30:01 Learn how to do it properly, but, um, basically have, um, so you can do it on Amazon. You can do it on red bubble. You can do it on Teespring and this many other websites. Uh, but basically what I've seen. Um, some people who have success with this, they build communities, they build, uh, Facebook pages around that niche and they start to publish shitloads of images about, uh, look at this cute kitty or look at those, you know, and she loads of images about that. T-shirt and things related to that t-shirt oh, what do you think about this? T-shirt would you buy it for your grandma? You know, and things like that. Uh, and then Facebook ads. Okay. But again, like I said, everything needs time for you to learn it and implement all the things, all those things that you learn. I'm not going to say it wasn't successful. Um, I'm S I'm going to say just, I didn't even start yet. Right. Okay. That makes sense. He was something, eh, again, it's something that would love to get into once I, again, I have more time. Um, and, and I can, you know, maybe outsource some of these things. Speaker 1 00:31:13 Yeah, yeah. Something that you've tried and something you want to come back to at some point. Speaker 2 00:31:17 Sure, sure. Listen, I've learned, I've known so many things. I've done so many things in this three years and a half of doing the, the digital marketing thing. Uh, I've learned so many things, so many things, and I'm so excited to get rid of the boss and then come back to some of those and, uh, try them again. Well, once you do Speaker 1 00:31:40 This, full-time, you'll be a beast. You'll be doing everything. Oh, Jesus. Speaker 2 00:31:43 I can't wait. I, you know, I don't know if you do, you know, uh, <inaudible> uh, a guy called meet Kevin. Speaker 1 00:31:51 No YouTube. No. W Speaker 2 00:31:53 Um, then I'm not going to talk about him too much, but basically he's one of my favorite, uh, YouTube, uh, channels, specially, when he was talking about, uh, property now, he's he, he wants to run for governor in the U S in California. So, uh, he changed a little bit from what I was, uh, love him for what, basically he's a natter. He w he works so much. I mean, if I have energy, that guy has 10,000 Mo much more energy than I have. Uh, and, and I think, uh, I think he's just an workaholic. Uh, really, uh, so, uh, I, I, sometimes I like him, like, you know, I don't stop. I don't stop. So when I have more time, I got to fill it up with something. I never going to stop doing things. I'm not that kind of guy. I don't think I got to grow old and, you know, go fishing for the rest of my life. And I don't, I don't think I'm going to be that guy. Speaker 1 00:32:57 Awesome. Okay. Um, next up on the list is, is YouTube. Uh, and I know you've done quite a bit with YouTube, and it's been fairly successful for you. Your channel ask the levies, the boss will pop a link in the show notes, but thank you got, um, you've got about 1.4 key serves 1,400 subscribers. Now you've had over 70,000 views on your videos and your videos are great by the way. Um, just want to tell people a little about your YouTube journey, like how you started and, and, and, uh, more about, you know, how you learned that because you, your production quality is great. I normally do your live streams. You use some kind of software that makes it look great. Your nails look great. Like I know all these different skills that you've pulled together to do this. So like, talk us through your YouTube journey. Speaker 2 00:33:47 Again, this has to do with, uh, with me being so passionate about something. When I say, oh, I want to do that. I go crazy. And I go like, uh, I want to learn anything and everything about it. So when I said, okay, I want to, to do some, I want to do a YouTube channel. And actually to be honest with you, this is, uh, taking us back. When you asked me how I stay motivated. It's kind of part of what I want to do for the rest of my career, if you want. I want to, I want to be on the YouTube space, maybe a radio or something like that. And, um, first of all, I started a YouTube channel because I said, I want to, I want to make friends. I want to see, I want to share, uh, the knowledge that I'm gathering and, and share with other people that probably are, uh, uh, I'm not going to say this on your podcast, but maybe they're as stupid as I was starting. Speaker 2 00:34:48 Their journey, I think is the right way of doing it. Yeah. Um, ignore it. Maybe they're better is <inaudible> to all these things, blinded to all these things and, and maybe someone is going to watch it and say, wow, yes, this makes sense. Uh, so th th that the idea was this one kind of make a blog, you know, Hey today, uh, what a shitty day in London today, but I'm still positive and going home, and I'm going to work on my stuff, you know? Yeah. Uh, things like that, you know, and people really, um, the, the messages that I'm getting is that people love my, my no filter, um, personality, if you want it, there's no filter, uh, in my messages, in my videos. Um, and, uh, that's, that's why I started the YouTube channel, uh, in, in never to me, the YouTube channel was never about making money with it. Speaker 2 00:35:50 It's just totally to make, to network with people and, and talk to people. I, I don't know if you realize, but I like to talk, so I like to talk. And, uh, eh, this is the perfect thing for me with a YouTube channel. And then how I learned to do all this. I said, well, I, I don't want to, to have just, you know, a screen with me in the thing, because people might get bored. I, then I say, okay, let's learn about how do you use all the software? And action is not, it's, uh, it's a program called OBS studio. It's free, and it's crazy amazing. It's so sexy. You can do so many. You can make movies on that program. It's so amazing, honestly. And Speaker 1 00:36:43 How how's it freeze like freemium, or is it just totally free? It Speaker 2 00:36:46 Starts really free. There's not the, you don't pay anything on this. So then you have a plugins that you can use. I'm not using any blank at the moment, but you can create basically, um, different scenes. Um, uh, people are not going to see me on the postcards. I'm doing something with my hands, showing the scenes they can create. So basically you can put, let's say, uh, uh, layers, you have different layers, right? So you put the camera on the back, if you want. And then on the front of the camera, you're going to put a PNG PNG image that is going to cut in. It's going to be transparent, but you can see only the, the bottom, right. It's gonna, uh, it's gonna show up underneath you, um, with an offer that might say, Hey, get my merge here, link in the description. But he put a nice image, you know, a nice call to action, instead of just hearing my horrible voice, Hey, get the bag, get a t-shirt. Speaker 2 00:37:41 But, um, uh, there's loads, listen, nowadays, I got, I wish I would've knew this. I wish I knew this, but nowadays you can, you have, you can learn anything. You have no, excuse not to be great at something, especially now I have everything on YouTube. Yeah. Everything is on freaking YouTube. So that's how I learned how to use OBS. Uh, but then I had, I had other cool stuff that people started to call me and ask me, Hey, do you know how you do this? I do that. Um, cause I had that at some point when I'm doing the live streams, I have, uh, people from the audience join us and, you know, share, Hey Adrian, I made 500 bucks or, uh, just share, uh, someone who wants to come on the show and talk about that, that topic that we have that day and, you know, share whatever is like kind of a TV show, like a late night show if you want. That's awesome. Yeah. I love that. I love that kind of stuff. I can't wait to, to see when I can get back to it. Speaker 1 00:38:45 Well, you've kind of already answered one of my questions. So w one of my questions were, um, you know, video content is time consuming to create, and it's like, you're the face of it. So as a, you know, air quote, passive income stream is not very passive. And I was, I was going to ask how you plan to scale it up in the future. Once, you know, you say, ask them to Easter, to your boss and you're doing this full time, but it sounded like you weren't doing it for the money. You're doing it for other other reasons, which is if Speaker 2 00:39:17 Money comes out of this is going to be secondary to me. So of course it's going to come some money. So people that are already companies reaching out, Adrian, uh, would you do a review about this pro product that we have, Adrian? Would you, uh, would you, uh, you know, do you want a sponsor or whatever? Um, there is money to be done and then it's monetized their YouTube channel is monetized with ads from YouTube, which is crap. Anyway. I mean, I'm not getting that many views, but, um, it's, it's not scalable because, uh, well, it could be scalable if I become the next Joe Rogan, you know, uh, it's gonna be me doing a video, uh, podcasting or radio show or whatever, but you know, the sponsor's going to pay more and more, every the bigger I get, hopefully, I mean, I have big dreams. I'm a dreamer. Speaker 1 00:40:14 No, I, I told you, I, I understand where you're coming from because the, our channel is not for monetization it's so we can chat to cool people like yourself and talk to people that we, you know, probably wouldn't have got the chance to talk to and pick their brains and find out what they're doing and all the calls that it's not about. I Speaker 2 00:40:34 Work on the street and I don't see people saying, Hey, I'm a digital marketer. Let's talk. How can you make friends then? Yeah. Other than having a podcast and invite people to come. Uh, and if you go to my YouTube channel and you see the live streams that I had, it ranges from people that makes 50 bucks on line to people who makes millions of dollars online. It makes no difference to me. I just want to talk to awesome people that, that, uh, have the same mindset. Uh, I'm sure I'm going to get this, uh, something different from talking to Matt diggity than talking to one of my friends who have less access, but the, the energy that I'm, uh, I'm exchanging with with these people. It's awesome. To me, that's around four. I mean, and that's actually one of the things that are, I want to say that keeps me motivated as at them, the energy exchange. Speaker 2 00:41:36 Yes. You see that. Now, when I'm talking to you now, when I go off of this mic, I'm not going to do anything today anymore. Um, I I'm, I had enough today. I'm just going to take a shower and go to sleep. Tomorrow's another day, it's payday, by the way, it's Friday, spading construction. But that, that exchange of energy, the last that we have in here, you know, just you and me chatting, having a laugh, that's just amazing to me, it just pumps me up so much. And I go, I go back now, go to sleep. So happy. Speaker 3 00:42:09 Awesome. Speaker 1 00:42:10 That's awesome. Okay. Well then next on my list then is property investments. Um, and, uh, this one, this one's a personal interest to me because it's something that I've, I've, I've not done any property investment, but I would like to do some in the shorter to near term. My first question is, uh, as you've done both online businesses and property is the big difference that I see for property. At least here in the UK is, you know, when you buy a house, you buy it with a mortgage. So it's leveraged. You want me to go to put down a smaller small-ish deposit? Um, yeah. Uh, but with a website, it's all, self-financed usually you have to buy the sites outright. You know, you've got that, but on the flip side, the ROI or the returns on a website are a lot better than renting a house out for definitely. Um, Speaker 2 00:43:04 And I mean, the first thing I would say is there's, there's a big difference. There's a big difference. One, one is a total traditional business model. That's never going to fail. If you buy a house it's yours forever. Hopefully you're going to pay it. And it's yours forever. And you're going to have a crappy years, like the last two years with this, um, I'm not going to, I'm going to keep it out of the discussion because I'm very vocal about my opinion. But, um, uh, let's say it wasn't a good year with what happened for the last few years, right? Because, um, people lost jobs, lost their jobs. They don't have money. So if you rent it, then the danger is that people are gonna pay you. And especially in countries like Spain, I'm not a hundred percent sure how here works. But in Spain you are freaking very protected as a, as a tenant. Yes. So for me to get you out of my property is going to cost me shitloads of money Speaker 1 00:44:09 And take a load of times. Well, yeah, yeah. Speaker 2 00:44:11 Time and frustrations and, and, and all that, but that's going to happen. That's going to happen in the online marketing space as well, some way or another, like maybe you don't have tenants, but you have the stupid Google algorithms that every now and then, and, uh, they can kill your site basically. Right. And you say shit, what happened to my last three years of investment and energy and money that put into all this, he goes to the bin. Um, so that's, that's one of the differences that, like you said, the first difference is to buy offline properties. It costs a lot of money, or at least not, let's say not a lot of money, but you have to have some capital. Yes. You have to have some capital. You have to have good credit score. Uh, you have to have some knowledge and you have to go out there in the world and find a property, talk to people, uh, scan the area because there's a lot of work that goes into it. Speaker 2 00:45:23 Whereas online, I started my first website with no money other than just paying the, um, the theme. Uh, and, uh, the, how do you call it? The, um, hosting? Yeah, what's that that's maybe 250 bucks per year. That's nothing right. Yeah. Compared to my first property that I had to put down, I think he was a 20,000, uh, 20,000 euros. And then all this, the stress, cause it's a, it's a stress, you know, it's a stress for you too, especially I'm not living. I mean, I'm living in London in the properties that I, we myself and my wife buy are in Spain. Right. So imagine taking the plane every weekend, which is awesome in some way, cause you go to Spain, you know, nice weather, blah, blah, blah. But actually you don't go there to have fun. You know what I mean? You go there, you know, calling all the time, go, uh, assess some properties, look at this deal. Speaker 2 00:46:25 They looks good. The property looks like shit, but you know, we can, we can do some improvements here. And there's a lot of things that you need to do. But nevertheless, he, he comes into smart people like yourself will know that you have to diversify a little bit. Once you have some money on, you know, on your hands, um, you have a few properties online. You have a business that, you know, service that provides, uh, staff to, you know, to affiliate marketers. Uh, then maybe one of the few properties, you know, talk with them. I put them on your Airbnb makes much more money for me than them putting them on a long-term, uh, rent for now. Speaker 1 00:47:11 I was just gonna work. Do you, are you buying them to flip or you buying to rent, but it sounds like you're buying them to rent and then use an Airbnb. Speaker 2 00:47:17 I, I consider I've considered all the possibilities and, uh, the, the, the best one would be to just buy, buy and sell, buy and sell, buy, do the makeup, sell it. Yes. Um, but again, for that type of a business, you need capital because you need to buy the property. You need to buy with cash down. There's nothing like, oh, you know, I'll pay you 20 grand now and you have to have some money in and you have to have some money. You have to have some people to, to work with you that you trust, you know, to do the repairs and all that. Uh, and you have to be there. You have to, you have to be there. Uh, and this is one of the things that I'm considering with my wife, uh, for the future, uh, as this grows, you know, we have two properties now looking for the third one, um, as this grows, we'll, it's better for us to be there to manage all this, you know, there's going to be, it's going to be easier to manage is going to be probably easier to expand as well. Speaker 2 00:48:26 There are services that we can provide as well in the future. Like, um, there's many people reaching out to my misses to do consulting, uh, you know, Hey, how did you buy this? How can we do it? Uh, can you help me? And then there's sort of a loads of opportunities that comes you. You can work with the bank. Cause, uh, in Spain, uh, the banks take the properties if you don't pay them. Right. And then they have them there, but they don't want, the bank is not a real estate, you know, uh, things. So they, they just want to get rid of them. So they have dealers with people who can bring them, you know, clients to sell those properties again with the real estate agencies is the same thing. You can get, you know, two, three, 4% commission from the sale. So there's lots of opportunities, but Speaker 1 00:49:19 How come you, um, how come you decided to invest in, in, in, in Spain? Speaker 2 00:49:25 Well, the first thing I wanted to buy here, but then I said, shit, did you know how much, how expensive the properties in London are? Speaker 1 00:49:34 Insane. Insane. It's crazy. Speaker 2 00:49:36 I mean, I mean it's half a million, just a studio. Speaker 1 00:49:44 I see. But is it, is it, is it hard to buy a property in Spain compared to maybe you, you bought cars around where I live in Wales, the property is relatively cheap. Like, is it, would it be easier for you to buy, like buying the UK somewhere outside of London or was it a conscious decision that you wanted to buy in Spain for other reasons? Speaker 2 00:50:04 What do you have to do as well with, um, how you, how you're going to monetize it? I mean, if I buy, if I buy a property in Wales, which is by the way where I did my first training on the cranes, um, I had to drive all the way to ways. I can't remember where it was, but it took me like three hours to get there. It depends how you want to monetize. I mean, the, the market in your area, do you think you're going to rent it? Uh, you have to make some numbers as well because when you buy a property and you want to rent it, you have to look at the numbers. Like if, if it makes sense to buy it, you know, you, you look at a minimum of eight, nine, 10% return per year. So if you buy a property with a hundred thousand, you will like at least 1000 per month. Yeah. If it makes sense, it makes sense. Yeah. I think then, uh, no, that would be 10,000, 10,000. Yeah. 10,000 per year. Speaker 1 00:51:00 Yeah. Yeah. Something like that. Speaker 2 00:51:03 Uh, forgive me, it's too late, too many hours a week Speaker 3 00:51:07 Already, but Speaker 2 00:51:09 Yeah. I mean the, the, the, the decision was where can we buy as well? I mean, there's no point for you to try to, uh, you know, get into debt here in, in the UK to get a huge debt, to buy a property. And then, uh, you, you just basically pay the property with the money that you make from it. Yeah. You know, uh, you want to have some money, you ought to make some money out of it. So we said, okay, where can we buy? So the property that we bought in Spain cost, the first one cost us. Uh, it was ridiculous because it was after the, uh, after the crisis in 2008, 2007, Spain never recovered fully. So where we bought, we bought this property, uh, with 77,000 euros, something like that, stupid cheap, you would not buy it if you didn't have like 200, 250,000 before. Speaker 2 00:52:05 Wow. Yeah. And it was a lot of makeup to do to the property, by the way, spend like 20 grand on it with this shit, lots of mistakes as well, lots of mistakes. But then, uh, we pay like 150 euros per month on the mortgage. It's so cheap. It's cheap. So now you can imagine, and of course you have other expenses, like, you know, uh, the council tax, I dunno how that's called, but in Spain, but there's a tax for all this stuff in some of the pro uh, property maintenance. But, um, we still make money out at the end of the year. When you, you know, when you draw the line, you say, okay, we made 15 this summer, uh, we spent three grand on this and that, and that, oh, shit, we still made 10 grand. Oh, that's nice. Speaker 1 00:53:02 That's awesome. That's, Speaker 2 00:53:04 That's why we decided to buy in Spain because I mean, what's the point for me to buy here just a bit, just to pay a property and the property be mine in 40 years, you can look at that kind of investment as well. But first I want to make some money. Now he could have bought, he can have some money now, and then he can buy some properties to have them, you know, later on, if you want to sell it, you just get the equity that you gained 10 years or something. Speaker 1 00:53:37 Yeah. That makes sense. Okay. Awesome. I, um, I want to spend the last 10 minutes talking about, um, uh, your main income driver now, your Amazon sites, or your favorite flights. Um, tell us a little bit about that. So how many sites do you have, um, tell us about like, how they monetize, like what, what are you doing with them? Cause this is what's driving most of your side gig income right now. I believe so. Speaker 2 00:54:04 I have two website. Both of them, one of them is monetized with Amazon in with Zwick. Yep. Um, I just started with the Zig, like a March. So it's March, April, may. I need to check how much, um, money that's had made, but, uh, I, I've only posted a switch on the ads and Amazon, and then I have another site that I've started in March this year. And like I was telling you earlier the site, um, makes some interesting, uh, progress. It's only four months old. It's a brand new domain. Uh, 40 pages up, uh, in comes, money comes in. He made like 220 bucks last month, only from Amazon. Speaker 1 00:54:57 Yeah. It's incredible. So four months for a brand new site. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:55:03 I mean, in my experience as well, it's, it's, it's, um, I can't remember how much money the, the first side made in its first month, but I remember the first time that's when he made his first sale in, in, in it's in the second week of being live. Wow. And this side made its first sale in the, in the, uh, I think he was in seventh or sixth or seven day started to make sales on Amazon. Speaker 1 00:55:35 And this, these, these, these are not expired. The means it's Speaker 2 00:55:38 A freshman. No, no, no. I'm, I'm, I I'm, I'm doing all that kind of stuff. Right. I'm not, I'm not afraid to, you know, recognize that I like to play with, with, uh, ACO. And I do anything to take an advantage, uh, without losing my moral compass, of course. Uh, but no, I haven't used anything else then just, uh, write a few, like the first two, 20 pages on the side were all informational. So like how to do this, how to do that. I can, these do this, scan, these, that blah, blah, blah. You know how they are the, the questions, right. Questions that people ask about a product or service or whatever. And then once I had 20 of those pages up, I started to slowly start to drip, a few money pages. Uh, and then I keep kind of a ratio. I make one or two pages, money pages, and then I dropped two or three informational, two or three, uh, money and then information. I kind of, I don't know if this has, um, Google sees any of these like, oh, this site is good or not. I have no ideas. I haven't decided this, but, uh, um, that's how I did it for, for some reason. I don't know. So Speaker 1 00:57:03 For now, when you say, when you say money content, do you mean like best X for Y style guide? Speaker 2 00:57:09 Yeah, that's the soul I have. So the way my site is set up now, this new site is set up. I have a, the main keyword that's best a microphone, but baseball cast, uh, sorry, best microphones. And then I have, it's kind of a hobby if you want a silo, uh, build around that. So you have best microphone for podcasts, but microphone for YouTube, best microphone for singing, best microphone for blah, blah, blah. Um, and I haven't talked about any other thing then microphones for the last 50 pages. So, and I'm not going to stop. I have like another, a hundred keywords that I need to write about and all are going to be about microphones. And the domain is brandable and it's expandable. So it's within, um, audio, let's say, and I'm just talking about Mike's, uh, I'm going to make like a hundred, 200 posts about Mike's and then I'm going to jump to a new, speak up if you want something to do with audio, like best, I dunno, uh, Speaker 1 00:58:24 Speakers or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are you writing all of this content yourself or you outsource? I hate writing. I Speaker 2 00:58:35 Hated with a passion. I try sometimes to do it, but this just takes me, like, it takes me like eight hours to make a couple of lines. And I said, no, no, no, no. I scrap it, scrap it, just send it to someone. So I have a couple of, uh, three writers now, and I actually, yesterday I posted another, uh, post on Upwork looking for another one. Yeah. Um, so I all sorts of the, the content writing. Speaker 1 00:59:06 When you, when you hire these writers, are you looking for experts in the field of microphones or audio or are you just looking for good writers? Speaker 2 00:59:14 Yeah, I, I, when I post the ads on, on, when I post the jobs on Upwork, I always say, Hey, please be an expert in audio. If not, don't apply for faxing, don't apply for it. But then I don't want to get, go over. And, and and start reading your articles and then say, oh shit, this guy is not good. Then start the whole process again. But I understand that people, they need the money as well, so they just apply for it. Yeah. It's just that they make, they lose my time. Speaker 1 00:59:47 Yeah. Do you make sure that there need to be English because, or that doesn't matter for you? Speaker 2 00:59:51 Uh, it does matter at this point, at this point, it does matter because the site looks great and I'm, I'm reaching out to local businesses as well to kind of, um, make collabs with them. I'm looking already in the future. And I I've heard you and mark talking about this in one of your videos, um, that you guys have kind of a four stages of a site and this site that I'm building now, I'm kind of looking already on the third or fourth phase phase that you guys talk about where, you know, um, I'm not looking into building a program or product, but I look into send some leads, maybe Speaker 1 01:00:40 Makes sense. Connect to the plans in the space. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:00:44 So that's, that's why I want to, to the content to be at least readable, at least readable, you know, don't, don't, uh, don't make me look like a, uh, like an asshole, you know, because these people, they, they might be like, uh, you know, doctors that I'm going to invite, Hey, can you chime in here? Can you give me a code? I can put your name here, link to your side, blah, blah, blah. And then these guys would come, what the hell these guys are writing? I don't want my name here. Speaker 1 01:01:10 So they're Speaker 2 01:01:11 Not Americans, but then, uh, the English, at least the way they write it's, uh, an American English. And it's understandable. That's, that's the, that's the, the, the, the thing that I'm asking, you know, to be readable, it doesn't sound like it's spine spine or something. Speaker 1 01:01:34 Makes sense. Okay. What about, um, what about link building? Have you done any link building? Yeah, Speaker 2 01:01:42 So I don't, I, I don't like to wait for Google to give me love. I want them to see me. Hey, I'm here. Yeah. So like we talked, um, previously, uh, I followed, um, you want me to mention their names? Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, that's fine. So, so, uh, I followed for the first, um, couple of pages. I followed, um, the things that Morton, uh, story got shared on his scores. And then I had to move away from just pure, um, black, white hat, uh, approach to building sites. And then I, I went to gray, not black, but gray. Uh, and I started to, uh, implement things that I've learned from Matt diggity on his course. Uh, you know, you will do your, uh, you will do your, uh, how do you call it? You, you, um, I forget now, um, your, your social fortress, sorry. Speaker 2 01:02:47 It was escaping me the name, uh, you know, been your social fortress, like any business will do when you buy, when you create a new mortar, brick and mortar business, you don't wait for everybody to come to your business. You go out and tell everybody, Hey, if you come here, you have to coffee for the price of one. You know, you go out, you don't wait for people to come. So that's kind of the same principle that I follow. You know, if, if you build a business, a website, you don't wait for Google to discover you. You have to go out there. You know, social media tried to promote it all for free. I'm not paying anything, but it takes time, right? It takes time, like any business, any brand that you build, you have to, you have to go out there and, and, and, um, and tell people that you exist. Speaker 2 01:03:39 And that's actually why I believe that all, all the pages are indexed of the site. Uh, the site actually ran. He was indexed on the second day. So I, I, I made the life today. Next day was indexed. Um, within the first week, nine days or 10 days, it was ranking on page one for two keywords. So I've done all this work at the same time I was, as I was writing. So I was writing and I was talking about this. I was promoting, going on Facebook, going on, Twitter, going all over the place and trying to promote it, you know? And then the only thing that I didn't do it, and I, I I'm, I want to do once I achieved, maybe, I don't know, a hundred articles. I want to do some press release, uh, yeah. For, for the site, make sense as well. Speaker 2 01:04:31 Any business would do that. Yeah. You know, any business would do that. And that makes you even more legit. Right. Because, you know, that's that's, Hey, Adrian has a new coffee shop, you know, tell everybody on the radio. Yeah. The shelter about it. Yeah. Yeah. Give a shout about it. So, um, that's, that's part of the link building, uh, to me, right? Because every time you share your, your side, your articles online, that's a link basically that Google has ways to crawl you to find, you know, say, oh, hang on a second. These new side, the Adrian, Adrian built a there's it's appears to be here on Cora and they talking about it on Reddit. And they're talking about it on Pinterest and, oh, hang on a second. And, and then I started to do some, some, uh, social signal blasts. Speaker 1 01:05:23 Okay. So w was that individual posts or how did that Speaker 2 01:05:26 Individual boss? Yeah. Okay. The individual posts, you have to be careful with, with everything that you do with link building, you have to be careful because you don't want to look like desperate. And like, you know, that, that would, that any SEO would do that. Like it's desperate and it's new. And, uh, he would just do all the things at the same time in Speaker 1 01:05:50 Trouble, try all the shit down the wall and see what sticks. But, Speaker 2 01:05:54 Um, you have to be careful, you know, slowly, uh, do what makes sense. Do like, if times, uh, like New York times, if they would have to start again, they will promote themselves nicely, slowly talk, uh, you know, reach out to another paper maybe, or, Speaker 1 01:06:14 Or, I don't know. Speaker 2 01:06:16 I think, I hope you guys understand what I'm saying. Speaker 1 01:06:21 Yeah. Speaker 2 01:06:23 But, and then I started to do some, uh, so basically the social blasts were just for one article and it's not the money pages, you know, don't do social blasts or the money pages. That, that, to me doesn't sound good. Doesn't sound natural. Who the head will talk about your money page. All of the sudden, like 60 people on, on the social platforms. Wow. Have you seen Adrian new top 10 microphone for podcasts articles? No. So that's where the that's when these awesome, uh, uh, informational articles come into place. And then if you do smart interlinking, well done, that's, that's going to help your site. Speaker 1 01:07:10 That makes total sense. Okay. Awesome. The last thing I want to touch on here is, um, is how you found the last couple of updates from Google, the one in December, and then the one, uh, the affiliate wine, a coupler couple of months back. And then most recently the one that's literally just finished, rolling out, like, how was this, how are both of your sites fed through through those? Speaker 2 01:07:33 I'd tell you what if there's one thing I stopped doing is read anything that has Google updates in, in, in the, in the name of the post or the social posts or the article, whatever days. Yeah. On the videos on YouTube. I hate all those videos. People need to understand that Google do updates every freaking Speaker 1 01:07:59 Day. Yeah. Speaker 2 01:08:02 It's like, you see people going on Facebook. Hey, how did your site went with this, uh, update bro? Yesterday, they had an update, you know, it's just, I personally, I don't, that's, that's a personal thing. I stopped looking long time ago about the Google updates. The only thing I do is I go and check the SERPs, see if anything has changed. But that, that I do anyway every day. Yeah. You know, in my niche. So everyday my niche, when I come here at night on my laptop, I put my screens, I put my, you know, my browsers here and look at the, the, the keywords. I look at the serves, I see who's new. Who's not new what's going on. So I don't pay attention anymore to Google's updates. That makes sense. You know, so it hadn't really, uh, like I said, uh, the site, we were talking earlier, this, the site that the first site that I built, uh, it seems to me that it seems in Google analytics, that the site, um, got killed because it shows zero visitors. But at the same time we were talking about the second side, that's strange. He has like, what a hundred visitors per month. Then he makes over 200 bucks per month in, uh, in four months with 40 pages. So maybe something strange with, with the analytics on my sites. I don't know. Speaker 1 01:09:29 Yeah. Does quite right there, 200 bucks for a hundred visitors. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, Speaker 2 01:09:37 It could be that the, uh, has to do with the integration with the Zoe. Um, yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm not using that too deep. So I don't know. Speaker 1 01:09:47 Are you using these with leap as well? Speaker 2 01:09:50 Yeah. In that could be the reason because I just click on the button. Okay. Activate, see you later. I didn't even, I didn't ever ask anybody, Hey, this is, this is how you do it. I just clicked. Okay. Activate by. So, um, that could be the reason as well, but I don't know. But personally, I don't look, I don't look at Google updates. I don't read anything about Google updates anymore. The only thing I do, like I said, I look at the SERPs everyday that's that you should do any website owner should do the same, you know, just look at the SERPs every day to see what's going on. That's when you see the what's going on with, with Google updates. If, if they changed, uh, something in the algorithm, maybe there's new websites on a page, one C go and see what those pages are doing. Speaker 2 01:10:39 Um, maybe they have new features on the syrup. See if you can learn about that. Yeah. But, um, I don't, I don't look anymore because that's just another way of, for people to create content. Oh, you Google update. Check my video. Yeah. I know what you mean. Yeah. But, uh, I don't know. I, um, I think the best way, the best, cause there's not much to anyway about it. You just keep posting, keep posting articles, keep building links, keep doing great marketing, man. You should be fine. Um, and another thing I learned you see is that some people, they, they get hammered by, by updates. Um, and they just lose, lose, um, um, motivation mean, it makes sense, right? Yeah. That's why you should have like two or three have two or three because when one got hammered, leave it, there don't do much. Just keep posting slowly on it, because on the next update Google has done to maybe reverse, maybe go back maybe. And that's how Google works. You know what I mean? So I've been watching so many videos, even I used to go to the live Hangouts with, uh, with, uh, John Mueller. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to go to those and um, and, and I see that, listen, I need to stop watching this stuff cause it's not helpful at all. It's not helpful watching John, John Mueller, he, he has a job to do. He doesn't necessarily want to share anything helpful with Speaker 3 01:12:19 You, you know? So Speaker 2 01:12:23 I don't care. One other thing I do is follow smart guys in the SEO space. So there's many smart, awesome people. The guys from NFG, um, I don't know if you know them NFG, uh, Clint Butler, Ted good-bye is Matt diggity, uh, Kyle roof, all these people, they're making tests. They, they do tests and that's how, you know, what works and what not. We can Google basically. So I followed them what they say, then I, I pay attention and then I apply it as Speaker 1 01:12:55 Well. Yeah. Learn and listen and learn. Awesome. Well, Adrian has been, it's been great having you, I thank you for sharing your experience that you've had across, you know, all the different things that you've tried and we'll, we'll no doubt get back to at some point in the future. Um, where can people reach out to you and find more about you or, you know, join your community? Like where's the best place for, for them to find you well, does does, Speaker 2 01:13:24 Uh, the one thing that we have mentioned is that I had to stop a little bit with all these things that I was doing. Yeah. So if you want to find me, you can find me on the YouTube channel as tele Vista boss. Uh, but, um, at the moment I had to take a break to focus on my project and prioritize and make first, this website let's make money to <inaudible> and then, and then I can come back and have fun with you guys on the YouTube channel. Uh, so that, that's just a little observation there. So if you want to catch up, go to the channel, Speaker 1 01:13:59 Do YouTube channel alone anyway, even the content that's on there is, uh, is really valuable. So even if you're not posting out new stuff, there's plenty on there to consume of stuff you've already done. So yeah, definitely check it out. Speaker 2 01:14:11 Thank you. And there's a Facebook group as well. Um, again, you can find me there. I I've been very, very quiet. Usually I'm much more active, but for the same reason, uh, I used to be active on Facebook and all the platforms just as answering questions to people, Hey, can you help me with this? Can, and then I say, hang on a second, when I'm going to have time for myself to do this. So, um, I'm sure all of you will understand, but if you want to find me, there's a, this is more awesome community on Facebook called hasta LA Vista boss as well. So if you want to join me there, uh, I think I saw your, uh, uh, you sent your, I did. Yeah. I request a profit. Do we know? Do we know? But uh, yeah, you can find me there, uh, in other cool people again, that's I think that's, those are the two players. Speaker 1 01:15:15 Perfect. Awesome. Well, thank you very much again, for, for your time and for sharing everything with us. I think, uh, I think our audience is going to get a lot out of this episode, so thanks again. And, um, and, and don't stop hustling until you actually see like hasta Lisa boss. Speaker 2 01:15:32 That's that's, that's the goal. And, uh, I hope everybody enjoyed this. I hope you, on the other side, listening to this, you got something out of it. If not, you know, Hey, uh, I hope, uh, hope you had great today. I hope you have a great day and, uh, definitely I'm keen to come back at them when, uh, when, when the time comes. I want to share with everybody, Hey, a <inaudible> and uh, now it's full time online, baby. That we'll celebrate for sure. Speaker 1 01:16:07 Awesome. All right. Thanks Adrian. Thanks. Hi, Speaker 4 01:16:13 Thanks again for tuning in, and I hope you enjoyed the show. If you're listening to the podcast version of this episode, please subscribe on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. Please rate and review. As this will allow us to grow our audience and create more shows like this one. If you're watching on YouTube, please subscribe to the channel and click on the bell to be the first to know about any new episodes that we release until the next episode. Goodbye.

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